tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post4816101171764592853..comments2024-03-28T12:51:43.585-07:00Comments on SURFMATTERS: Why Throw Spray, When You Can Throw Shade?Paul Grosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02614071361550493917noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-70038206288543269652017-12-22T03:05:12.815-08:002017-12-22T03:05:12.815-08:00And you don't come across as bitter. Make no m...And you don't come across as bitter. Make no mistake about it however cool these soul surfers or whatever they are trying to emulate are in business for themselves to sell mass consumerism to the average joe. Everyone rides a surfboard these days and for that reason alone I don't like it. Even bodyboards are rare these days but not as rare as mats !<br />BrettoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-75014669450295573572017-12-20T16:03:55.865-08:002017-12-20T16:03:55.865-08:00The anorexic bikini clad models bit would be ok !
...The anorexic bikini clad models bit would be ok !<br />BrettoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-51507168424447022532017-12-20T15:15:10.080-08:002017-12-20T15:15:10.080-08:00Whenever I'm trying to explain mats to a conve...Whenever I'm trying to explain mats to a conventional surfer I just say if you think of wave riding as a drug, traditional stand up surfing is like smoking it. Riding a mat is like slamming it straight to the vein. A little off color perhaps, but always shuts them up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-49549102637086984702017-12-19T21:29:29.583-08:002017-12-19T21:29:29.583-08:00All the very best stuff is misunderstood by the ma...All the very best stuff is misunderstood by the masses! Mat MaxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-4612456093276635512017-12-19T09:29:10.596-08:002017-12-19T09:29:10.596-08:00Another thing that struck me about this video is t...Another thing that struck me about this video is the fact that even use by a well respected pro like Rastovich doesn't serve as a prima facie validation of mats. (Witness the vacuous comments made by the videographer.)<br /><br />All of this said, would any of us have it any other way? Would we want mats to be a mainstream vehicle...with pro contests, flashy point-of-purchase displays at glossy surf shops, and anorexic, bikini-clad models holding a mat in beachwear print ads???<br /><br />So, there's a "taking bad with the good" aspect here that even I, as potential beneficiary of mass acceptance, am happy to endure.Paul Grosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02614071361550493917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-15199881103500203562017-12-19T09:12:30.383-08:002017-12-19T09:12:30.383-08:00Hi Jonathan,
I agree with you that Dave R. isn...Hi Jonathan,<br /><br />I agree with you that Dave R. isn't anything like the stereotypical pro. In fact, he and George are quite good friends, and I know he "gets it." What rankled me about the 'pool toy' remark is that he seemed to be playing to the attitude that a lot of surfers have about mats. It was an opportunity to enlighten, and he let it go in favor of a bro-moment.<br /><br />I think he also said something along the lines of, "That's the fastest I've ever gone on a mat." I doubt he's ever gone faster riding anything, at least on a wave like that, and perhaps should have said so. Paul Grosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02614071361550493917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-16780091185753985672017-12-19T09:07:55.302-08:002017-12-19T09:07:55.302-08:00Just to be fair, that "pool toy" comment...Just to be fair, that "pool toy" comment in no way originated with Rasta. This is from a 2004 post on Swaylocks<br /><br />https://www.swaylocks.com/comment/79636<br />===================<br />In a recent conversation, George Greenough called and excitedly described his surfing experiences on a $.75 cent discount store inflatable pool toy. George said the surfer who was riding it was really flying along, and because it looked so weird, he knew he had to try it. So he paddled out, offered its owner $2.00 and clinched the deal.<br /><br />Humbling? Sure! Of course it`s all about fun. Yet for "serious fun", George (and virtually all other experienced mat surfers) still prefer custom high end surf mats. Geoffrey Levenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05985724057703601570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-88447627499078895442017-12-19T08:42:42.721-08:002017-12-19T08:42:42.721-08:00Yay, back in the water!!!
"The old dude look...Yay, back in the water!!!<br /><br />"The old dude looks like a seal" I'd say that was a high compliment.<br /><br />I heard I was "the old geezer on the Li-Lo" amongst the kids in the place I surfed in NZ. <br /><br />I loved it.tuskedbeasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08773118164724132491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-86964832324813321262017-12-19T08:39:58.120-08:002017-12-19T08:39:58.120-08:00Hi Paul,
Not bitter- we get it. The piece is cond...Hi Paul,<br /><br />Not bitter- we get it. The piece is condescending, I can only imagine how personally insulting it would be for you. <br /><br />I'm particularly sorry for Dave's pool toy comment. I think he came off wrong. I've mat surfed and worked with him as part of a environmental action, and he's not at all your stereotypical self-involved sponsored pro surfer. He loves mat surfing. I'm not sure where he was coming from with that comment, but possibly he might have been saying how the craft might appear to the unenlightened.<br /><br />Jonathan<br /><br />tuskedbeasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08773118164724132491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-4405353496516022982017-12-19T08:30:57.178-08:002017-12-19T08:30:57.178-08:00"The Innermost Limits of Pure Fun. I understa..."The Innermost Limits of Pure Fun. I understand that many of the tube sequences in Coming of the Dawn were shot on a mat at Lennox Head NSW."<br /><br />Not only...he was using a massive and heavy waterbox camera that he made from scratch himself<br /><br />http://patagonia.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341d07fd53ef01b7c715e43b970b-popupGeoffrey Levenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05985724057703601570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-89013720697065321832017-12-19T08:30:29.027-08:002017-12-19T08:30:29.027-08:00To balance things out a bit, last week I finally g...To balance things out a bit, last week I finally got in the water after a long lay off. (Needless to say, it felt great!) <br /><br />Anyway, this guy in his 30's paddles past me and over to a friend in the lineup. <br /><br />He says, referring to me, "That old dude looks like a seal!"<br /><br />The other guy said, "Yeah, but he's the fastest guy in the water!"<br /><br />At least people are starting to notice the mats go well...Paul Grosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02614071361550493917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-57102326957367344542017-12-19T08:27:40.481-08:002017-12-19T08:27:40.481-08:00"I'm also bitter right now, because a guy..."I'm also bitter right now, because a guy on a board went for a wave I thought was mine and ran over my legs yesterday."<br /><br />Surfing Uppers a few years ago, rather large person on a longboard kept ripping me off for waves. Finally, on one of a number where I was behind, I just grabbed their leg rope and when the ran to the nose I yanked. Great fun to see their face plant as I went around them and rode the rest of the wave alone. Must admit I nearly received a fist plant in return but that was the last wave the dropped in on me.Geoffrey Levenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05985724057703601570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-53839701328456411232017-12-19T08:20:24.071-08:002017-12-19T08:20:24.071-08:00I love that Rasta rides them, by the way, but he d...I love that Rasta rides them, by the way, but he disappoints. Fish People featured a mat, but it's Dave and his wife with no fins in tiny waves. I think Dave never rides it and his wife looks like this is her first time. Great movie, disappointing segment.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04630951836010012917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-16702905984133446242017-12-19T08:16:14.260-08:002017-12-19T08:16:14.260-08:00Yup tired of it. I get lots of props for riding a...Yup tired of it. I get lots of props for riding a mat, but it's like the "hey, nice moped" kinda props. It's cool that other people ride them.<br />Guy pulled up to me the other day in a truck while I was walking home from the beach. He yells, "Yeah, loved you on a mat out there. You're a hero!" <br />"Thanks. They're the best. You ride one?" <br />"Oh no, no." Looks away embarrassed at the suggestion and drives on.<br /><br />I'm also bitter right now, because a guy on a board went for a wave I thought was mine and ran over my legs yesterday. Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04630951836010012917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-23167163109978058752017-12-19T07:42:18.163-08:002017-12-19T07:42:18.163-08:00No need to be pissed off and thanks for your artis...No need to be pissed off and thanks for your artistry and work. I believe that George Greenough once said that surfing isn't about "how it looks, but how it feels." So true, and a typically profound observation by Greenough. Notwithstanding the foolish comments you noted, I find that many silent "critics" of mats in the lineup have not surfed very long, don't know much about surfing, surfing etiquette, board design, or the history of surfing and aren't getting too many waves either. Once you get a few good waves on a mat there's no longer any question about it. If one has doubts about riding a mat in really good waves, just watch The Innermost Limits of Pure Fun. I understand that many of the tube sequences in Coming of the Dawn were shot on a mat at Lennox Head NSW.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17760437466589934447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-46008422380894275722017-12-19T06:55:22.863-08:002017-12-19T06:55:22.863-08:00I can see why it would piss you off! Pretty condes...I can see why it would piss you off! Pretty condescending.<br /><br />I have seen video of Rastovich bodysurfing without fins. My guess is that he just has gigantic feet.Geoffrey Levenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05985724057703601570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-26714612341271925392017-12-19T06:48:55.846-08:002017-12-19T06:48:55.846-08:00No its not bitter and yes it would be nice if some...No its not bitter and yes it would be nice if some persons on their own trip could acknowledge the scientific and practical application others in the "surfing" world add to all of our enjoyment. That said why would you have a toy in the pool we only ever swam in pools in Oz as a kid and used the mats in Manlys shore thumping surf or should i say "sub par mushy conditions" haha. Stay true Paul we know who the real innovators are here in the UK and your way up there. Play nicely all, churs me dears Old Surfer. Old Surferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16002040540261233488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289837270278241948.post-85489344681674201662017-12-19T04:49:18.437-08:002017-12-19T04:49:18.437-08:00I apologize if this post comes off as bitter...but...I apologize if this post comes off as bitter...but stuff like this really pisses me off.Paul Grosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02614071361550493917noreply@blogger.com